thanks Nick, I was thinking of ordering a full season collection (3 each of Glen Moy, Glen Ample & Autumn Bliss) from Thompson & Morgan.

It looks like the welshfruitstocks long canes are for collection only - but if I'll get fruit from at least some of my plants next summer, it's not too bad.

So, now to get up to the lottie & get rid of the weeds - the old roundup versus smothering in cardboard dilemma... still can't decide!

Vik