Thanks everyone. Very helpful. Thanks for reminder cutecumber. It's true it's not a very big border but I should get 4 PSBs in there and it will be handy for harvesting too, especially outside the back door when it snows!! As for OH eating my veg. He will, under sufferance but he is not a veggie eater,even my runners he'll only tolerate whereas I and my grandaughter eat them straight off the plants as if they are apples. Can't have enough of them. Thanks again all.