My marmande packet says 'Provide support and tie in regularly. Remove side shoots and restirct the growth to one main stem. This is a semi-determinate variety, if growth ends in a flower truss, select the nearest side shoot and train up as the main stem.'

Made no sense to me but hopefully it does to you!

Know what you mean about flying footballs, we have a massive lawn for my little boy to play on and still the ball ends up on the new grass seed or in the new flower beds - not yet on the veggies - he'd better not! And OH is just as bad..... hmmpf.

janeyo