don't knock the cheaper packs of seed ,i got some red cabbage ones last year and they were brilliant,and it was my first time with cabbage,or could it have been,that it's easier to grow i was in lidles on thursday morning ,the seeds were 29 & 49 p per pack,there are also cucumbers ,and thing not seen in the usual buying places,well worth a good look,the only thing is,how to interpet some of the info on the back,it's still worth that try